It appears to me that some people are shameless about the hay they want to make out of the South Whitehall shooting. “This act of extreme police brutality is not a fluke or an accident, but part of the police system that regularly works to detain, deport and kill black and brown people across the country,” Make The Road said in the release. As someone familiar with South Whitehall, I can assure Make The Road officials that South Whitehall has no such agenda, if they have one at all. Perhaps the person trying to make the most exposure from this tragedy is Mark Pinsley, who is running for State Senate. The Morning Call describes him as a South Whitehall Commissioner. In truth Pinsley announced his candidacy for state senate before he even began serving his first term as commissioner this past January . He now is asking District Attorney Jim Martin to hand the case over to the State Attorney General's office. As someone who has attended dozens of South Whitehall meetings, Pinsley was never involved in community government until he decided to run himself. He should be ashamed of his grandstanding.
Yesterday a liberal friend asked me why the police officer couldn't have wrestled the man to the ground, instead of shooting him. I have included a picture from the Morning Call of the shot man above, I think the answer to that question is self explanatory.
I have no opinion on the properness of the shooting. I will leave that determination to the authorities. I do have an opinion on the local haymakers, they're shameless.
photo from The Morning Call
Pinsley is a moron. Worse, he is a maggot trying to capitalize on this tragedy. You don't see Mr. Browne out there trying to stir the pot for votes.
ReplyDeleteI'll hold judgment until all the facts are in. However, Mr. Santos was no angel in his own right.
Shoot, don't shoot is a problem for every police officer daily. If he doesn't use appropriate force and somebody gets hurt, he gets sued and vilified. If he uses force, he gets sued and vilified. Some of these liberal do-gooders who have no law enforcement training or background have prejudged the officer with ignorant and absurd
answers that are not part of any training regimen. I respect freedom of speech, but personally, I'd rather hear qualified statements; not useless unqualified statements that exacerbates a problem.
You will hold judgment until all facts are in yet you already judged Mr Santos because of stories you read about him. That officer nor yourself who at the moment this incident occurred had no idea who Mr Santos was to make an assumtion about his character. If you think it is justified to agree with a man being scared for his life because of muscles and tattoos mixed together with the degree of color in a person's skin....then your beliefs are totally prejudiced. That officer should probably look for another line of work if he was in fear....while carrying lethal and non lethal weapons. Before you sit here and say I am just another so and so that is against police....you would be wrong. I have plenty of friends in law enforcement, I support law enforcement doing their jobs as peacekeepers....deadly force should not be used unless there is an actual threat of death. At the end of the day, the officer gets to go home at night right now and Mr Santos was not giving the opportunity because an ill equipped officer made the choice for him.
DeleteTo get the total picture of Mr.Santos please read The Express Times on line.Another young man turning his life around
ReplyDeletea liberal friend asked me why the police officer couldn't have wrestled the man to the ground
ReplyDeleteIt is not a police officer's job the wrestle / fight with assailants. It's not their job to risk life and limb.
We need to wait for the laboratory and taxology reports. They may shed additional light on the circumstances.
In our civil society of laws evidence gathering, interviewing witnesses, and lab reports are all taken into account, before coming to a conclusion. Either these protesters don't understand the law, or don't care. I believe the latter.
over on facebook this post has been received with outrage by those who wallow in victim mentality. accusations against me include both "white privilege" and racism.
ReplyDeleteunverified reports indicated that the man punched out a car window, jumped onto the moving police car. and pulled the mirror off the police car. the police officer may have been confronted by a large, powerful, violent man moving toward him who ignored commands to stop. I do not see it as a racial issue, but as a real threat to the officer.
You mean the violent man the cop let walk away from him? ........... Your excuses are weak and horrible. You can speak for the south Whitehall police department. Lol... what you know everything each cop does every day. Keep clowning around old man.
DeleteWhy didn't the Morning Call share this picture?
ReplyDeleteDon @9:27, the photograph was taken from the Morning Call.
ReplyDeleteThe term "white privilege" is in itself a racist remark. It assumes us white people may not 'earn' what each of us has achieved in our lives, but rather it 'just happens' to us because we are white. It also implies all white people are privileged.
ReplyDeleteMartin Luther King once said he longed for the day when a man would be judged not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character.
I wish those who fall back on the racist statement of 'white privilege' could take the time to read and understand MLK's quote.
Hmmm how is telling someone they are treated better than you racist? You can go back to playing your victim white card sorry for the interruption.
DeleteTo add... Wasn't MLK called a trouble maker by many of your right buddies?
DeleteMr. Howze, the police were called because a man was creating a disturbance on Hamilton Blvd. I haven't read or written anything about the man's character. The only fact we know is that he did not comply with multiple police commands to stop moving forward. I do not know if the officer was ill equipped or not. I do know that a new South Whitehall Commissioner who should as such have no comment at this point, is instead joining the protesters. I speculated that he is looking for publicity because he is running for State Senate. That was the intended point of this post.
ReplyDeleteI saw Bill White chipped in with his usual drivel.
ReplyDeleteWhile trying to appear unbiased and saying we need to wait until the facts are in, he then went on to point out instances of racism being involved in other incidents across the country and how the system is biased against minorities.
It would have been nice if he had balanced those points with examples of how racism has been falsely claimed in many cases, or if he even had pushed back on the obviously false narrative being spread that Mr. Santos had his hands up. For anyone who's watched the video, it's clear that he didn't and was still moving forward at the time of the shooting.
All White did with his column was set up the narrative he wants to spread, no matter what the facts turn out to be in this case.
A previous comment mentioned that Mr. Santos was turning his life around. I don't think that has any relevance in the investigation here.
ReplyDeleteAll that matters are his actions involved in THIS INCIDENT.
A police officer often has no idea of a person's background when they interact with them, and has to make their decisions AT THAT MOMENT based on the behavior AT THAT MOMENT of the person involved.
Whether Mr. Santos was a career criminal or choirboy shouldn't really matter. Whether he made minor mistakes in his past and overcame them might make his story more tragic, but his actions last Saturday are what he (and the officer) should be judged on.
Correct, you always know a cop is in the wrong when they start talking about the other persons past.
DeleteMark Pinsley's actions are inexcusable. He is casting doubt on the investigation and those performing it before it's even complete. It's the worst kind of political pandering. Not only should he lose in his PA Senate race, he should resign immediately as SWT commissioner.
ReplyDeleteThis is not the SWT police investigating the actions of one of their own. This is the PA State Police investigating the incident.
If Mr. Pinsley has a legitimate problem with the findings of the investigation, or the decisions made based on that investigation, he should wait until he has the facts to make his request.
As it is, he is an embarrassment.
People who toss around the term, "white privilege", betray their total lack of belief in Dr. Martin Luther King's well documented vision of a Color Blind Society for what should be the most obvious reasons.
ReplyDeleteBut, hey, everybody knows whatever The Morning Call's great Bill White says MUST be true.
Respectfully,
ROLF OELER
Colored blind lmfao How did that color blind go for Obama?
DeleteUsing the term "white privilege" is an attempt to assign blame based on race. That is ugly and may be viewed as a racist action.
ReplyDeletethe facebook page in question attracts many trolls, many from out of the area. many of them claim expertise which I suspect they really don't have. others don't even read the link, but take off just from the comments. it is a snowball of ignorance and misconceptions.
ReplyDeleteI am in agreement with those who wrote that it's too early to judge or assign blame in this case. In my opinion the shooting represents a tragedy for the family and for the police officer alike. One life has ended, and another has changed forever.
ReplyDeleteThe term "white privilege" as I understand it refers to benefits commonly enjoyed by white people that are not generally enjoyed by people of color.
I am a white man. Here are some examples of white privilege in my life.
The summer after college graduation, I spent three months travelling by bicycle from New York to Seattle. At the end of many days, I knocked on a stranger's door and asked if I could camp in their yard. Most invited me into their homes. Some even allowed me into homes in their absence. I do not believe these same invitations would have been extended to a person of color. That's an example of me benefiting from white privilege.
A few years later I began a career as a petroleum broker, which led to starting a business as a petroleum trader. Brokering and trading are relationship businesses and nearly everyone in the business was white. I was successful in part because a) I worked very hard and b) I developed some strong relationships with people in the industry. I am sure that if I were a person of color, those relationships would not have developed and my hard work would not have led to the same success. This conclusion is based on observations of my colleagues and counterparties.
These are just two examples from my life. White privilege as I understand it does not mean that a white person's success is due solely to being white. Give a lazy white guy the same opportunity that I had, and the outcome would certainly have been different. White privilege means that people of color do not have the same everyday opportunities that white people take for granted.
Here's another example: a friend who is black says that if she goes to knock on a white neighbor's door, she has to first think about whether she appears non-threatening, lest her neighbors be scared of her. White people don't have to do that - an example of white privilege. Consider what it's like to have to take steps to appear non-threatening, because of the color of your skin which you did not choose. Consider what it's like to have store owners eye you suspiciously because of criminal behavior by a tiny fraction of the people who share your skin color. This doesn't happen to white people.
The white people who benefit from white privilege did not create this system of preferences - we were born into it, and we absorbed some harmful message from mass media. We need not feel guilty about it. We can however recognize subtle differences in the way people are treated, and unfair assumptions, and act to address them.
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
The standard Perpetual Victim Crapola and the constant enabling of such really needs to stop immediately.
ReplyDeleteSincerely,
ROLF OELER
Bob,
ReplyDeleteI repeat, "white privilege" is use to assign guilt based on race. You have provided us what you believe it is, that is as charming as anyone's opinion on what God is. That said, the term "white guilt" is used by the progressives that control our colleges, universities, public schools, and many corporate human services departments to suppress the opportunities of "white people" in favor of so called "people of color" so that past grievances and sins may now be redressed. This is what "white privilege is to young "white people" now in college and in the work force.
With this in mind Bob, you seem to be somewhat older,not really in the cross hairs of this "white privilege" so we can assume you are comfortable with imposing the all the theoretical guilt of the many previous white generations onto this, most recent "white" generation so that they may at last/finally atone for 300 hundred years of "white" sins. Does this bother you? Do you feel guilty enjoying the fruits of your "white privilege" while today's youngsters are now being told to metaphorically and practically sit in the back of the bus because of their skin color?
Please at this point tell us you are willing to share their sacrifice to prove you believe such atonement will lead to lasting racial harmony. I'm sure they will appreciate the show of support. You need to shed yourself and your loved ones of the poisoned fruits of your own "white privilege". The house, the car/cars/vehicles, portfolio, all of it and turn it all over to a suitable entity that can redistribute it to the appropriate people and causes. After all, if you aren't willing to do this, aren't you merely virtue signaling?
I however will hang onto every penny and piece of property I have because I worked hard and reliably for it all. I have no "white guilt" because I am the decedent of abolitionists. Republicans were the party that freed the slaves and passed the civil rights legislation over the objections of the very racist Democrats. It is also interesting to note that the "Atlantic"published an article very recently written by an African American who volunteered/confessed that his ancestors involved in the slave trade. So really it's not as simple as black and white after all is it?
I can't take credit for this one:
ReplyDeleteDear Mom and Dad,
Thank you for sending me to White Privilege Camp. I am overcoming my melanin deficiency. Soon I will have the coveted Snowflake Badge. Gotta go, time for the Microaggression Puppet show.
3 August 2018 I just viewed the new video of The Santos Incident on WFMZ.It shows a different perspective than local media has been reporting,Perhaps this mass hysteria will now end
ReplyDeleteWhen you serve In the military in combat and weapons are fired, the military reviews the incident. Why? For one, respect for life. But also because we want to know if training and procedures are up to date and effective.
ReplyDeleteWhy should police be different?
Generally, shooting people because of “behavior” when life and limb are not at risk isn’t what we want from our police. So perhaps we can learn something about how our public servants could do things differently without arguing whether someone we didn’t know is a good person or not?